Dungball

[grant hayes]

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[RhymeLovingWriter]

Well, this sounds hopeless...if I'm understanding it at all. Am I even close?

[RhymeLovingWriter]

OK, that helps (although I had to go look up apokatastasis). Well, now it's kind of cool. Still deep, but cool. Thanks for taking time to add more insight.

[grant hayes]

I do have a really hopeless one that rhymes, but it's too much of a unrelieved downer to post. And I wouldn't want folk to think I actually thought that way; at least, not all the time.

[RhymeLovingWriter]

Just put a disclaimer and post away. I write some stuff that isn't necessarily what I think, at least, not all the time.

[grant hayes]

I hope I have summed up and not dumbed down, Samuel. I suspect I may have committed the latter: a pitfall into which my rhyme often trips.

[Poemahontas]

Nicely done Grant.....

[grant hayes]

Why thank you, Poemahontas

[MHenry]

Interesting food for thought. I think I am seeing an edited version. No matter, grant, your work, rich with possibility and uniquely creative, shearing words into delicious souffles, compels reading and re-reading for ever expanding enjoyment.

[Odonko-ba]

Ditto! A dictionary, a cup of joe, and a grant hayes poem. And I'm ready for an intellectual journey.

[grant hayes]

That is probably one of the nicest things anyone has said about my writings, Odonko-ba. The idea that someone on the other side of the world would enjoy reading my stuff with his dictionary and cuppa at hand just warms my heart. The internet is a blessed and blessing devil indeed.

[grant hayes]

I'm glad you find it so, MHenry. This is an ornately wrought little thing, high on concept, but not much in the way of heart. I offer it mainly to join in with the rhymers, like an elephant joining leaping gazelles.

[MHenry]

Well, I would not call this poem a heap of elephant dung, in any event.

[Katray]

I like it; rhymes quite nicely! I do that too, fall into rhyme schemes mainly for the sake of rhyming..

[grant hayes]

I wish I could fall into rhyme more easily, Katray, and make of it something better than the bagatelles to which I am prone. Thank you for reading.

[Odonko-ba]

Well done as always, an intellectual delight. Hope is all we humans possess. Without, we're nothing more than base animals. Am I to far off?

[grant hayes]

Not at all, Odonko-ba. It is a hopeful piece, seeing that there is a kind of transcendent turn even in apparent unbelief.

[John Wertz]

I actually find lots of hope in this poem -- at least a "glimmer of undespond" The contradiction of the self and the anti-self, as Yeats: "EGO DOMINUS TUUS" --especially in "even disdivine achieving Is a species of believing" Very cool!

[grant hayes]

A man who can bring Yeats so cogently into the conversation I can only salute! Thank you for picking up on my undespond and disdivine, John. You geddit!